Episode 3

S1Ep03. Inclusion or Bust?: Discussing Inclusive Nationalism with Daveed Gartenstein-Ross part 2

Today’s episode reflects on September 11, 2001, as a turning point twenty years later. We discuss this time of profound tension, the divides around us, extremism, and solutions to society’s ills: Inclusive nationalism, KPIs of inclusive nationalism, US-ness, and a need to be an agent of change for a better society. 👉 Our guest Dr. Daveed Gartenstein-Ross is a scholar, author, practitioner, and entrepreneur who is the founder and chief executive officer of Valens Global and leads a project on domestic extremism for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD). The International Herald Tribune has described Daveed as “a rising star in the counterterrorism community.” He has previously held positions at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Google’s tech incubator Jigsaw, and Georgetown University. In addition, Daveed has recently published two monographs on domestic extremism as part of the project he leads for FDD, exploring white supremacist extremism and the militant anarchist and anti-fascist movements.

September 8, 2021 · 27:52

⚠️ Reflection after 20 years of 9/11: We are at a time of profound tension. 00:36
🤔 We need outside-of-the-box thinking, but a controversial view of virtually anything in 2021 can cost you your job and professional status, and that is not healthy. 03:30
🗽 Buiding inclusive nationalism and challenges around it: It's important that we have a national identity that we're proud of. 06:01
🤓 Moving forward: the raising of the right values, reducing polarization, diversity, openness within generations, and what are the KPIs? 09:41
😇 KPIs for measuring inclusive nationalism: A sense of national pride and acceptance of people with different views. 12:57
🔊 US-ness as a critical KPI: the noise of data surrounding us is a big challenge to overcome. 15:27
🌞 We need hope, for an inclusive future, for our nation. 18:03
🙌 Takeaways: Ownership, humanizing others, and taking other opinions in. 20:45
🤩Transactional is not the same thing as transcendent. Togetherness isn't just some handout. 25:46

👉 Connect with Daveed:
https://valensglobal.com/who-we-are/#team
https://www.fdd.org/issue/domestic-extremism/

📰 Daveed’s Articles:
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/skinheads-saints-and-national-socialists/
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2021/06/14/behind-the-black-bloc/

👍 Connect with Mark, Andrew, and Courtney.

🙃 Mark Fedeli
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/markfedeli
Twitter: @markfedeli

☀️ Andrew Churchill
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/fachurchill/
Twitter: @FAChurchill

🤓 Courtney Hastings:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/courtneyhastings
Twitter: @chatrhstrategic

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